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September 17, 2011

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Why is it that haters always come off sounding retarded? Sandwich is a good example. He posts some stupid comment, "Crossfit causes injuries".. We then all have to educate him "Duh! Injuries can happen in any activity..." But instead of recognizing that he's made a dumb comment, he'll continue to disregard the plentiful posts of good logic and reasoning and post more crap, "If soldiers wre getting killed in boot camp, would you argue that boot camp is safe since a solider is more likely to get killed in Iraq?" Really?!?!.. You just compared getting killed in boot camp to getting a sports injury in Crossfit?!?! Does that even make sense to you? It does? YOU'RE RETARDED!!! (And come on... can't you spell your own fake name right?... Sandiwch or Sandwich... which is it?)

Anything you do has a risk of injury. Whether it's crossfit, construction, or a desk job, there's always a possibility that someone can hurt themselves. You can reduce the risk of injury by warming up and listening to your body from time to time. There are cases when I'm sore, but that doesn't prevent me from doing other workouts, and there's times when I need to rest because I know my body. However, you're more prone to injury if you are not actively doing some type of exercise.

I started CrossFit even later in life, 53. I used to hurt my back getting out of bed. I have had one minor injury (strained achilles) and a torn bicep that is probably related to CrossFit. The bicep tear happened during a Tony Blauer training, but I have had elbow/wrist/ whatever problems since I was a fat and out of shape kid. When I was a fat and out of shape jogger, I had terrible knees, ankles, back, calf problems. Now I'm an in shape, strong and fit 55 year old. I can still lift heavy (2xBW DL, 1.5XBW Squat, almost BW Press) tons of pullups, box jumps, doubleunders, kettlebells, and a muscle up here and there. So, I'm with Freddy. I'm a lot less often hurting 55 year old guy two years post CrossFit than I was when I was a 30yo jogger.

We went bowling last night and no one got hurt! LOL

Sandwich, I wasn't talking about getting hit in the face. I was talking about elbow hyperextensions, twisted knees and ankles, deep bone bruises..... all incurred while training. You always got hurt way more training than actually fighting.

Unlike many people who read here or post here, I actually can look back on over 5 years of consistent training in CrossFit at a pretty high level. I would say the amount of times I have been injured fall into line with the amount of times I've been injured in any other training endeavor. Of course, I started CrossFit late in life (40 years old) and I have been training in some way shape or form since I was 13 years old, so maybe I am just doing it smarter than other people just starting training for the first time.

"All sports can cause injuries, fighting, football, CrossFit and/or Bowling ;). CrossFit is no more inherently dangerous then any athletic endeavor when done properly and just as dangerous when done improperly. "

What jessica said above is what I was trying to say but I did it less eloquently--just that if you do a lot of sports, over years, injuries can accumulate (especially serious ones).I know people who got hurt in Police and Fire acadamy... And my Dad messed up his back stepping out of a police car, for crying out loud! My first thought went to Krav not Crossfit when I read about your knee.

I think a lot of people try to discredit Crossfit when they hear about injuries, and as you said, "Haters circle thier wagons..."

Crossfit attracts many personalities that push to extremes. Yes, in the beginning, I think that whole -athlete as warrior- ideal they seemed to be encouraging, was shaming some people into pushing harder and doing things RX'd that that could get them hurt and some folks had no business doing workouts with those reps or weights.

But Crossfit also pushed people who needed to be pushed and needed to go harder to get better results.

I still like Crossfit but found that I got overuse injuries from doing my powerlifting programming and then turning around and trying to do some Metcon with heavy weight after pulling a 90% max effort deadlift. So I made some silly choices.

I then started cherry picking my Crossfit workouts to avoid injury and avoiding stuff like doing "Diane" on the same day as the above Powerlifting workout. That is insane.

On a side note-I love the discussion you've got going here. What a great place for the free flow of ideas and opinions. Thank you for this, I remain a "Freddy-fan."
-Mel

"I trained Krav Maga and fought in the ring. Over the course of those years of training, I was injured WAY MORE than I've ever been hurt doing CrossFit style of training."

Well, people punching you in the head tends to inflict injury. Crossfit is supposed to get you fit to do those activities, not add additional risk of injury.

If soldiers were getting killed in boot camp, would you argue that boot camp is safe since a soldier is more likely to get killed in Iraq? Seems to be how Crossfit defends their dangerous training methods.

Alex...check your ego at the door! And don't tell me that Freddy...I just started a recreational soccer league! Lol!

All sports can cause injuries, fighting, football, CrossFit and/or Bowling ;). CrossFit is no more inherently dangerous then any athletic endeavor when done properly and just as dangerous when done improperly.

"In my opinion, the CrossFit culture is way too cavalier about injuries and the poor form and overtraining that leads to them." - Awesome point and wholeheartedly agreed (shoulda listened to my sore lower back before Hang power cleaning a lot of reps; but I didn't, so I strained my back and lost a month of deadlift/squat training). And awesome analysis Freddy. Great post.

The problem as I see it is that CrossFit get CrossFit the training regimen and CrossFit the sport mixed up.

Of course if you're a competitive CrossFitter then you risk injury. It comes with the territory of competitive sport. Competition is about going beyond your limits and that just isn't healthy.

Now if you're using CrossFit to stay in shape so as not to suck at life then that's a different story. Hurt people suck at life. In my opinion, the CrossFit culture is way too cavalier about injuries and the poor form and overtraining that leads to them.

For health and fitness you want a system that will work for you long term. Hopefully CrossFit will evolve to be that system, but I don't think it's there right now as it is currently practiced.

Not knocking One World at all. You guys are the ones making things better. What I have observed and heard about that's going on in other boxes though is scary.

Awesome post as usual Freddy. It is amazing how people will do and say anything to prove that their sport is superior to others. They will find the most trivial things and amplify them and scrutinize the faults of other sports just to try to prove their point. I totally agree that crossfit can cause injuries, but so can any other sport, contact or not. Even Golf, which is only swinging a stick and walking the course has its injuries. No matter what the activity, there is ALWAYS the possibility of injury. if there was any activity that had zero chance of injury I am sure most of the world would do that all the time. but there isn't and for me, crossfit is a great way to get and stay in shape. yes I have sustained injury from pushing to hard or not keeping good form, but its all about learning and improving myself.

yes, when your back hurts dont full clean instead power clean, i know i know but the ego oh the ego comes calling

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